tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8577412693339547516.post4905884939675079214..comments2024-02-05T20:52:47.738-05:00Comments on ON THE DROPS: Raleigh Record Ace (RRA) 1947-1954P.C. Kohlerhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00448095852244111815noreply@blogger.comBlogger12125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8577412693339547516.post-589337659556505732024-01-06T15:33:55.167-05:002024-01-06T15:33:55.167-05:00With regard to ladies versions of the RRA, I own o...With regard to ladies versions of the RRA, I own one which I purchased about 10 years ago from the States. I was told by someone who worked at the factory at the time that 5 or 6 were made to special order and all went to the USA. Interestingly, all were in the largest available frame size of 23" and I was told that all but one were ordered by men who preferred the ladies frame design for whatever reason. Mine has the plain black paint scheme but otherwise has all of the correct RRA components to touring trim. The rarest parts must be the pedals...which look just like normal Raleigh block pedals but have a nickel steel spindle and hiduminium end plates, barrel and through bolts... I've never seen another pair. The bike rides really well but does feel slightly heavier than the gent's version I also possess. Mark Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8577412693339547516.post-84248511167719660112022-03-05T17:17:18.325-05:002022-03-05T17:17:18.325-05:00This comment has been removed by the author.Bob Parsonshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14784730902322222755noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8577412693339547516.post-15962262037747888572022-02-15T12:41:36.069-05:002022-02-15T12:41:36.069-05:00I have found this fascinating. Both my brother and...I have found this fascinating. Both my brother and I owned a Record Ace in the 1950's. Mine was maroon with a frame number beginning with a "5" and his was originally pastel blue but he had it repainted at the factory in B.R.G with a frame number 390196P. Mine was abandoned when we moved house and his was stolen whilst his son was using at Oxford Uni.Chris Wilkesnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8577412693339547516.post-6767514699379624962021-11-11T05:35:54.024-05:002021-11-11T05:35:54.024-05:00Hi Peter, I have photos and more details - I have ...Hi Peter, I have photos and more details - I have spent some time researching Cliff as I currently own one of his RRAs amongst others. I would prefer contact by email if that's possible:- mailetony@sky.comTMnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8577412693339547516.post-52374879497796150442021-11-07T23:58:04.988-05:002021-11-07T23:58:04.988-05:00Really? That would be even more impressive... but ...Really? That would be even more impressive... but the photos I have of the machine he rode for this shows chromed fork ends and the RRA style under top tube brake cable braze-ons. It's hard to discern the lugs which would be the best clue and, of course, he could have had his CHC fitted with the braze-ons and chromed etc. Do you have any other photos or details? P.C. Kohlerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00448095852244111815noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8577412693339547516.post-80768833533662629662021-11-03T18:43:28.736-04:002021-11-03T18:43:28.736-04:00Hi Peter, ref Cliff Smith:-
" In November 19...Hi Peter, ref Cliff Smith:-<br /><br />" In November 1965 riding an RRA he broke the Edinburgh-London record, clocking 18 hours 49 minutes 42 seconds for the 384 miles."<br /><br />This was actually done by Cliff on his "best bike" which was a 1939 Raleigh Charles Holland Continental model, not an RRA.TMnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8577412693339547516.post-37088813544609149192021-10-20T00:04:02.051-04:002021-10-20T00:04:02.051-04:00Great info, and and enjoyable read. So much new in...Great info, and and enjoyable read. So much new information! I'm the happy owner of a 1939 RRA and 1948 RRA. I now have a much better idea about what is original, and what is not.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04366951658581121286noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8577412693339547516.post-54434290671251215762020-07-22T12:49:10.511-04:002020-07-22T12:49:10.511-04:00This comment has been removed by the author.Bob Parsonshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14784730902322222755noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8577412693339547516.post-91426108768137840782020-07-09T18:44:08.863-04:002020-07-09T18:44:08.863-04:00Thanks... and well spotted. It was an AC hub of co...Thanks... and well spotted. It was an AC hub of course and this has been corrected.P.C. Kohlerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00448095852244111815noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8577412693339547516.post-20875018590184090772020-07-09T03:21:53.354-04:002020-07-09T03:21:53.354-04:00In my opinion this is not correct. I have been con...In my opinion this is not correct. I have been contacted on the same matter by Neil<br />I have seen similar RRAs and Lentons with this supposedly later style head badge dating from 1948.<br />The machine I have has been in the family since it was built. When I restored it clearly had its original transfers (I restored the frame using NOS original transfers). <br />I had photos of my dad riding it in 1949. From family information it may have been originally purchased by my Uncle Arthur (my Dad’s brother) who raced with the Mersey Roads cycle club from the pre war era and was still a member when he died. My cycle was probably stored from 1955 when my Dad got married, although he did ride others from this time.<br />The forks were originally all black. This was the case in 1947/48 due to material shortages of nickel- I restored the fork ends as they should have been in respect to my Dad. <br />The frame number is 18480- as such does not correspond to any Raleigh frame numbering system. It also had a solid nickel axle. According to the information supplied by Neil this would place this frame build in 1893! Raleigh frame numbers are notoriously unreliable.<br />Hub datings are not to be associated with dating a cycle. My Dad rode fixed wheel. When I restored it all I had was a set of harden bacon slicers front and back (c1947/48). I got an early FW alloy shelled hub to make the machine more enjoyable on VCC rides. <br />Raleigh were a mass producer- a such there was no respect to fitting the correct head badge to a particular date of machine- I have seen machines with their original badges supposedly from the same year with different head badges!<br />Kind regards<br />Simon Head<br />www.raleighrecordace.com<br />Simon Headhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15630147278643717807noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8577412693339547516.post-53766791978871276252020-07-08T13:07:54.360-04:002020-07-08T13:07:54.360-04:00Excellent read. However a correction to the date o...Excellent read. However a correction to the date of the new headbadge design, it was introduced during late 1949 or early 1950,(logically, the beginning of the 1950 model year would be most likely) on a frame number between 759860P and 777656P. <br />The quoted incorrect date of "late 1948" is presumably due to the very common misreading of the surviving frame number archive where the quoted P serial is incorrectly assumed to be the first one of the year, when in reality its the final one, or due to the equally common error of dating frames by their hub dates, which is particularly dangerous on low volume hubs such as those used on the RRA, which can be a year or more earlier than the frame. <br />Best regards<br />NeilAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12376793643815662633noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8577412693339547516.post-57967804955218077172020-05-30T18:21:28.264-04:002020-05-30T18:21:28.264-04:00Hello Peter,
Great blogs you have.
Regarding this...Hello Peter,<br />Great blogs you have.<br /><br />Regarding this para:<br />"Surely one of the rarest of all Raleigh's in existence is "Works Racing Machine" frame no. RP117 custom built for Ray Booty. This was ridden to two of the greatest records in time trial history in August-September 1956: the first 100 mile time trial (out and back) in less than four hours (3 hours 58 mins. 28 seconds) running fixed gear and the first "straight out" 100 miles in 3 hours 28 mins. 40 seconds running with a Sturmey Archer AM hub gear.. a record that was unbroken for 34 years. The machine was acquired from Ray Booty in 1995 by its present owner Alexander Von Tutschek. credit: Alexander Von Tutschek"<br /><br />Didn't Ray Booty use a Sturmey Archer AC hub for the record?<br /><br />I am currently in the process of adding my SA hubs to my Flickr site, current progress can be seen at this link:<br /><br />https://www.flickr.com/photos/moonm/collections/72157714279868128/<br /><br />I have quite a few hubs to add.<br /><br />Best regards<br />TRMoonmhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16597825524044835082noreply@blogger.com